So the Rhodes Trust ended up after their quote-investigation, and I submitted all the evidence, they ended up still recommending that my scholarship be rescinded, uh, but I had another opportunity to respond to their report, which I absolutely wanted to do. "While it is possible that [she] was the cause of the alleged injuries," she wrote a month afterward, "the court cannot make that finding by a preponderance of the evidence based on the evidence presented." [2], Almost three months later, The New Yorker ran a longer article about Fierceton, which had taken the magazine eight months to report and fact-check. Or whatever our kind of contemporary version of it is. as a kid. Is that your experience with it as well? Yes, definitely. RG: That they would forward charges to the federal government of wire fraud. [2], In July the OSC concluded its investigation with a 31-page report sent to provost Wendell Pritchett examining Fierceton's background more extensively than the Rhodes Trust had. Fierceton told the story that, according to her diary, her mother had told her to tellthat she had tripped while playing with the family dogs and bruised herself on the corner of a nearby table. If we review your medical records, are we going to see you had broken ribs and facial injuries? The recurring sexual abuse by Lovelace had made Fierceton even more anxious over the summer after he gave her mother a gun as a gift (Morrison had called the police after Lovelace showed Fierceton pictures of the gun. According to Fierceton, her mother pushed her down the stairs and then beat her extensively at the bottom. And at the time I was more in panic mode than like, let me step back and look at this logically, theres absolutely no case, this is an intimidation tactic to try to silence me and sign this NDA and withdraw from the Rhodes and agree to whatever terms they wanted me to agree to you. [2], Later that year, after that first foster home turned out to be "chaotic", with Fierceton's foster sibling attempting suicide, she moved to another one. RG: And so where is your story now? A trial was held in early 2019 at which she, Fierceton, a psychologist and a DSS investigator testified. The 35-year-old has been hit with two warrants for his arrest. And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. It, too, alleged that Fierceton was misrepresenting herself as having been poor and grown up entirely in foster care, with many photos of Fierceton as a little girl on the beach and riding horses, and other activities usually associated with affluence. At Norton's request, a fellow political science colleague, Rogers Smith, who while at Yale had chaired that university's undergraduate disciplinary committee, agreed to represent Fierceton during what he called "a very unusual process". RG: And so if its a well-educated white girl from a private school, thats way too close to home for a lot of these elites. 24-year-old Mackenzie Fierceton won the Rhodes scholarship in November 2020, but a tip-off to the prestigious committee kicked off a deeper investigation into the student's background. [2] The psychologist testified that she had seen both mother and daughter during 2007 and 2008. As in her case, first responders had experienced similar delays in finding and reaching the building, and difficulties removing Driver once they did due to the same accessibility issues. [19] The New York Post wrote that "[t]he case exposes the murky underbelly of elite schools like Penn. And we have this idea of what a person looks like who commits a crime or who gets arrested for child abuse. In The New Yorker piece, a nurse assigned to Mackenzie is quoted as saying, She had two black eyes, and her hair was full of blood. Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes Scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school and scholarship applications.NY Post photo composite In addition to reiterating many of the themes of comments made by her and her supporters in the previous articles, including criticism of the Rhodes and Penn investigations (the former of which Grim noted she was putting air quotes around when she mentioned it), she expressed a belief that her story had triggered a defensive anxiety in women like Finkelstein and White:[4]. And Im kind of one of the lucky ones where I had really expansive and thorough documentation for all the parts of this story. What was the response from the readers of the paper? So first-generation and/or low-income, again, is the acronym. In any event, The University of Oxford, where Mackenzies doing her Ph.D., has remained supportive, and in the wake of The New Yorker investigation, and the resulting protests from students and faculty, Penn lifted the hold on her degree. She had begun to remember more about the incident, and while still not certain how it had happened recalled that before it she and her mother had been fighting about Lovelace. Cause then you cant think that it could be you. In 2019, Fierceton testified in a court hearing that, in September 2014, her mother allegedly pushed her down a set of stairs and hit her in the face several times. If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to also check out Intercepted as well as Murderville, which is now in its second season. So one question was: Are you from a low-income family? Mackenzie Fierceton, 23, originally from St. Louis, Missouri, possesses a bachelor's degree from the University of Pennsylvania and planned to utilize the scholarship to pursue a Ph.D. in social . Fierceton said that when she had applied to SP2 as a sophomore she had cleared it with the school's associate director of admissions, who told her that a student's biological parents were not relevant to that definition, and said the same thing in 2020 (Penn's OSC interviewed the associate director and SP2's associate director for financial aid whom Fierceton said she had a similar conversation with; neither remembered speaking with Fierceton about the issue)[1]:111112). And I think its striking to read that back and just see how clearly distressed and distraught I was in continuing to push on that series of questions about a really traumatic experience. And, in this case, almost everyone who was involved in the university administration are upper middle class or very wealthy, highly academically educated white women. [2], In the early 2000s the couple went through a protracted divorce during which a guardian ad litem was appointed to represent their daughter's interests at the custody hearing. Right. As youve had time to sort through this, what do you think was driving Penn to go through this process, which they had to know, at some level, would cost them? Photograph by Robbie Lawrence for The New Yorker Mackenzie Fierceton grew up in a middle-class suburb of St. Louis. [26] In the second, he wrote, "[y]ou could also conclude from Mackenzie Fierceton's story that there is no actual empathy within elite institutions unless you perfectly fit into the trauma hierarchy they have created, which preferences the types of overcoming-adversity stories they can place in a brochure. Mackenzie Hargreaves is a fictional character from the Australian soap opera Neighbours, played by Georgie Stone.She made her first appearance on 30 August 2019. She kept a journal, writing that she was in so much pain from her bruised ribs that she could barely breathe. Right. [3] "Mackenzie may have centered certain aspects of her background to the exclusion of othersfor reasons we are certain she feels are validin a way that creates a misimpression," the report said. And so can you talk a little bit about your research? And we cant acknowledge that, so we then have to pick apart the other pieces of it, and say that well this, this just cant be real. And then she hired a law firm and eventually they were doing their own investigation for several months. She is poor, but she has not been poor for long enough. And still, it was just like: Nope. I didnt encounter many of them in the two years that I was living in foster families. And I ended up reaching out to his widow I found her on Facebook and sent her a message just to say: You know, I think I found some information. And she was shocked. If youd like to support our work, go to theintercept.com/give your donation, no matter what the amount, makes a real difference. Thats the reality of it, but we dont want to think of it that way. One trigger for the beatings was sexual abuse by one of her mother's boyfriends, Henry Lovelace, Jr., a fitness trainer and multiple winner of the Missouri's Strongest Man competition in his weight class, which her mother warned her never to talk about. They reported it to the state's child-abuse hotline. How old were you when you were applying to college? She was . Fierceton clarified her identity during the interview:[4]. But I got a bit of pressure from Penn to do that. Fierceton says she had not failed any tests; her Whitfield transcript shows she got a B+ in the class. The reporter had assumed based on her status as a FGLI student which stands for first-generation, low-income that she had been poor her entire life. And I turned over all this information to his widow. And then the other question was: Are you the first in your family to attend college? Am I right about that? Raised in Chesterfield, Missouri, a West County suburb of St. Louis, she attended and graduated from the Whitfield School in Creve Coeur. "She was a foster child, but not for long enough. And theyll openly talk about this. Because thats not how we understand poverty. And Im glad that people are having the kinds of systemic discussions that are so key to all of this. Like one of them was describing a biological child in a house as another foster child, and something about a half-brother or something.What were those and how were those errors kind of deployed against you? And in the U.S., there is much more pressure to pull kids out of homes, right? "[3][l], The Chronicle story led to nationwide coverage,[17][18] most of which framed the narrative as Penn and the Rhodes Trust had in their reports, depicting Fierceton as yet another exposed fraud. She did not remember what had caused it. RG: And one of the main things they pointed to was that she had gone to this private school . Fellow students, their parents and Whitfield faculty also noticed signs which led them to suspect abuse. And then instantly people started picking her story apart. And we entered the meeting and it immediately felt really hostile to me. Yeah. Her last set of foster parents had had a baby and she felt less a part of their lives. And youre getting instruction from a university official that that's how you're supposed to fill it out, that's what the definition says online. The nurse also reported bruises all over Fierceton's body, in different stages of healing, considered an indicator of possible physical abuse. Doctors diagnosed her with epilepsy, telling her the head injuries that had resulted in her earlier hospitalizations may have been a contributing factor to her developing it. Did they make that threat in writing or was that . Brandt, the Chesterfield police detective who had originally investigated the case, said later that the prosecutor never explained to her what that new evidence was. RG: Yeah. One possible explanation for this depressing story is that Mackenzie Fierceton fraudulently accused her own mother of gravely abusing and attempting to kill her, spent 22 days in the hospital to . And so if its a well-educated white girl from a private school, thats way too close to home for a lot of these elites. And I think psychologically one way people feel safer about it is to say: No, that happens to other people. She, to my knowledge, has stuck by that. [2], Fierceton refused, and a week before she withdrew from the Rhodes Scholarship, Penn's Office of Student Conduct (OSC) notified Fierceton it, too, would be investigating. And thats actually one of the things that, if there was any doubt whatsoever about this story, in some ways it was settled by that. And whats the difference between the U.S. and English system? But in this application they had two questions which are to determine financial aid. It was: Shes a spoiled little brat. Enough bruises? Youre engaged in a lawsuit with Penn. RG: And do you know Linda Tirado? Even though I had, again, written statements from two ICU nurses who took care of me saying: Yes, there was blood, [laughs] theres photographs, and there still was the argument of like, there wasnt enough blood or your face wasnt so distorted you could couldnt tell who you were. RG: So you applied for your masters in social work and there was a question of whether to check the, what Ive learned is called the FGLI box: first-generation, low-income. While that was not literally true, Penn's own definition of an FGLI student included those who have a "strained or limited" relationship with a parent who has graduated from college. At first there was actually, there was contention. I was like: Great. The show was mixed by William Stanton. "[2], When Fierceton returned to the St. Louis area on vacations and breaks, she stayed with friends. After her mother left, Fierceton got out of bed, found a spare set of keys and drove herself to school. And I asked again and just said: Ive had different experiences of harassment for the last four years at Penn. Penn's Office of Student Conduct recommended withholding her master's degree until she paid a fine; both conditions were dropped but a notation about the investigative finding remains in her transcript. If you havent read the story yet, I highly recommend pausing this, and giving it a read first, because I try not to go over too much of the same territory in my interview with her. And what area of it are you going to explore with your Ph.D.? And because poverty and abuse are so pervasive in society and particularly in a country that has such a minimal social safety net and has so much violence. Have you ever heard of her case? RG: And because you were not just low-income, actually no income, other than the jobs that you were working nobody has complained about the low-income one, right? This made Fierceton feel as if she were being watched for anything she did that could be used against the state's case by her mother. RG: Is that what sent you into a surreal state? Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school and scholarship applications. Yeah. I want to talk about where you think that pushback came from. ", When Penn's Office of Student Conduct confronted Fierceton with the discrepancy between her statement on two of her applications that she ", The exact definition of FGLI relevant to forms Fierceton filled out is a key point in the Rhodes Trust and Penn investigations of her. And so thats the low-income box. Or is that it separates two into one? . And I dont remember all of the questions, but it was a really intense, rapid fire of really difficult and challenging questions. Fierceton grew up in a wealthy community and attended an elite private school in a St. Louis suburb. So, I myself, had a seizure in the basement of my grad school in January, 2020, and it took over an hour to get me out of the basement because they couldnt fit a stretcher or a backboard down the stairs or the elevator. How do I do that in a succinct way when theres a very short word count and youre trying to fit everyones experience in?And so I didnt really think about: Oh, I need to say: This foster sibling who was in the foster care system. And at the time I was like: Why what? Fierceton is the 31st Penn student to be chosen as a Rhodes Scholar since the distinguished program's start in 1902. Youre welcome to talk to Penn Police or their Division of Special Services or the Womens Center, or any program that Ive been involved in, or people that have been involved in supporting me who can corroborate this. Professor Walter Licht, a Penn historian who runs the program, recalls her as the sort of student who would "[ask] a question that makes everyone stop and brings the conversation to a different pitch." It called attention to claims, such as the one in her application essay, that by the time she was six she "knew every police officer in my county by their first name", a claim Fierceton herself admitted was untrue and born of her fear of her biological family when she wrote it. Theyre not on a website. And so they had to see some benefit to them in doing this. And it became pretty clear to me that there had been a very similar delay in his care, but even worse dynamics. And so I did definitely have that kind of like: I have no idea what else is going to convince these people. Logan filed her wrongful death suit in August 2020, alleging Penn was negligently responsible for her husband's death through failing to make Caster properly accessible and not making SP2 develop an emergency response protocol. Fierceton wished that she had been more willing to correct mistaken impressions that she might have made and at the time "just kind of crumbled behind the pressure. And that felt very powerful in an institution where the overwhelming majority of people are coming from two-parent households, extremely wealthy, like a whole nother level of wealth that I have really ever seen, in my life in terms of just around me, like the 1 percent to the 0.001 percent. The court granted Morrison a protection order against her former husband; Fierceton had no relationship with him from that time onward. Or is that it separates two into one? Penn again spoke with Morrison and, this time as well, the St. Louis County prosecutor who had decided to drop the charges, without informing Fierceton, which the university defended as standard practice not to identify witnesses interviewed. Like, it seemed like an airtight case from my perspective. Within a year of her arrest, another St. Louis-area hospital had granted her admitting privileges, and she was able to resume her medical career. "[27], For the Penn investigation, Fierceton relied on the definition on the webpage for Penn First Plus, the university's support program for FGLI students, which includes the language about the student having a "strained or limited relationship" with the graduate parent. That they would forward charges to the federal government of wire fraud. She has a bachelor's degree in political science from Penn and was working on a master's in social work. Fierceton finished her Whitfield education on a scholarship while living in foster homes. RG: And it has, has she stuck by that? And it started with, this paragraph-and-a-half of waking up in the hospital and then, like you said, looking at my face, not recognizing myself, and kind of describing what I felt like and what the room looked like. So that was, I think later on that specific line came into question. And then to be so unanimously disbelieved and, at that point, this article was like a paragraph and a half. "[2], In December, an anonymous 22-page letter was sent to the U.S. office of the Rhodes Trust, which administers the scholarship program. RG: Penn didnt respond to a request for comment, but in its response to Mackenzies lawsuit, they write: Penn denies that there are accessibility problems with the Caster Building which contributed to Mackenzies medical emergency or to [Cameron] Drivers death. But I agreed to come into this Zoom meeting and this was the last day of November 2020. [3] In high school there, Fierceton was a model student. I had no idea what she already knew. MF: Yeah. The Inquirer story came out in November 2020. Theres no cell phone reception in the basement. But when you're filling out a box where it's "yes" or "no" and there's no more information or "kind of!" Like you said, theres also the cultural stereotype of like Orphan Annie and Oliver Twist of what these kinds of kids are supposed to look like that starts so early on in, and deep in the culture or media that we encounter that I think really ingrains that into people. After her graduation summa cum laude, political science professor Anne Norton invited Fierceton to stay with her and her partner in their large house in Northwest Philadelphia for as long as she needed to in order to complete her master's over the next year. And to me, Im like I am a household of one, so I am the only person in my family. Penn didnt respond to a request for comment, but in its response to Mackenzies lawsuit, they write: Penn denies that there are accessibility problems with the Caster Building which contributed to Mackenzies medical emergency or to [Cameron] Drivers death. RG: Right. Morrison told White in an email. Now Im sobbing, Im hyperventilating, and the staff member interrupted and said: Can we have an estimate of how much time is left? January 7, 2022. Theres a lot of chaos. I think this is a conversation not necessarily for people who are still in question about what happened here. And its striking to see just the continuing to push of what happened. RG: Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. The article by reporter Rachel Aviv was called How an Ivy League School Turned Against a Student, and it tells the story of an extraordinary battle between Mackenzie and the University of Pennsylvania. There were definitely, Im sure. If you want to give us additional feedback, email us at [emailprotected] Thanks so much! ", Morrison said. "I really don't have words,'" she told a mentor at the Penn Women's Center. For all the readers could have known, there could have been a videotape of it happening. You didnt grow up in crumbling projects your entire life. They took photographs of Caster's staircases and elevators, and interviewed witnesses and some of the Penn paramedics who had responded. And did you find this after The New Yorker article was published? It didnt, though, to the University of Pennsylvania. And I asked in the email exchange: Is this about the anonymous email? Like you said, I was called into a meeting. You had mentioned that you actually made a transcript of your interview with Deputy Provost Finkelstein shortly after the conversation. And at the time I was like: Why what? [9][3], In her sophomore year, Fierceton, already majoring in political science,[3] decided to pursue social work as a career, with the goal of being a voice for children in foster care like the ones she had come to know. What foster family were you with in X,Y, Z year? Is that just an interpretation or did they say anything that suggested to you that the fact that you had gone to a private school and grown up in an upper-middle-class situation meant that you could never at any point consider yourself low-income? So you applied for your masters in social work and there was a question of whether to check the, what Ive learned is called the FGLI box: first-generation, low-income. But I also think it has something to do with the way that we understand poverty. RG: Did they make that threat in writing or was that . You know, in my personal experience, there were not very many kids who came from a background like me. But it doesnt mean you were always low-income, just that you are now. Mhmm. Now anyone who earns that distinction is to be commended, but the article also noted that Mackenzie had aged out of foster care . Its practically half of Americans, or more. At Oxford University, Mackenzie Fierceton will conduct research on the "foster care-to-prison" pipeline. And I think I just share that because I think its a powerful example of if that is as far as theyre going to go when theres literal documentation from child me and that accusing me of that being faked, I really am like: I dont know, short of a video montage of instances of abuse from 6 to 16, what would convince them. Mackenzie Fierceton, 24, claimed she was from a poor background and grew up in foster care when she actually attended private school By Phoebe Southworth 13 January 2022 8:00pm Mackenzie. on about your day, ask yourself: How likely is it that the story you just read would have been produced by a different news outlet if The Intercept hadnt done it? Theres people who span all different kinds of experiences. And so, yes, if the student, then, is no longer useful, I could imagine it turning. And so when you applied for your masters in social worker or sociology? In the presence of her mother that night at their house, Mackenzie repeated the same story to a visiting caseworker, who appeared to accept it. Like one of them was describing a biological child in a house as another foster child, and something about a half-brother or something.What were those and how were those errors kind of deployed against you? And when I asked her again when I was gathering all this evidence in 2020, she gave me the same answer of: I dont believe its relevant, and this box isnt relevant to admission. If youre an independent student, then you should check yes to both boxes. Mhmm. Fierceton. Yes, to my lawyer who communicated it to me. [H]onestly, first-generation is never something I've really identified with fully. "Once you do something that the University sees as undermining its quest for power and prestige, it will not think twice about discarding you, humiliating you, and retaliating against you, which is exactly what they did" said one SP2 student in support of Fierceton. Mackenzie Fierceton, C'20, has been awarded a 2021 Rhodes Scholarship for graduate study at the University of Oxford. Theyre not on a website. [Laughs.]. Cause Ive just wanted to go on with my life and, you know, live it. And I kind of felt like things were resolved until the next week when there was more [laughs] more downhill event. [23] In mid-April, Penn released Fierceton's master's degree. MF: She, to my knowledge, has stuck by that. So to me it was pretty clear that it likely came from them. Jay Caspian Kang sounded similar themes in two different New York Times newsletters discussing Fierceton's story. She was one of only 32 high school students selected from a pool of 2300 applicants. RG: Well, Mackenzie, thank you so much for joining me and sharing your story. Fierceton's mother's supporters have maintained that her daughter was an emotionally manipulative girl who injured herself and fabricated other aspects of the abuse in order to become a more appealing candidate for admission to an Ivy League college such as the University of Pennsylvania. So they didnt ask about that in this meeting. So it makes some sense that they were very similar questions. "How much does one have to suffer to have value? And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. And I was the one who uncovered my classmates death. And because you were not just low-income, actually no income, other than the jobs that you were working nobody has complained about the low-income one, right? And so, like I mentioned earlier, I dont want to go over too much of the history that led up to your battle with Penn and with the Rhodes trust, because people can find that in The New Yorker article that came out recently, you went over that in some pretty decent length; in Katie Courics podcast in a recent interview there. Later in the year she wrote online that the name change gave her "ownership of her identity" and a sense of agency she had not had before in her life. There were so many there are, I guess I should say so many moving pieces. "[25], "I cannot avoid the sense that Mackenzie is being faulted for not having suffered enough", Norton told The New Yorker. And when will you have finished up your Ph.D.? And I think its true. MF: verbally. 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