In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). JavaScript is disabled. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. 2. So i don't usually dig into controversies but I couldn't help bumping into a few recently regarding Mamamoo. }); eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), }); if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ now onto the list: *Anything with an asterisk besides it is a fan account and so may not be entirely reliable, though are usually fairly trustworthy. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). ga('ads.send', { Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. You need to Register or Login to view the content Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. eventAction: 'load' For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name Another thing is my mental health. People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. Please feel free to contact me if you think Im missing anything! But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. eventAction: 'click_adunit' The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. ourbridgeisforever:. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. Read more about it here. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). That obviously didnt work too well. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. For the segment, the three followed outfits . }) Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), From their raunchy and raw fashion choices to wearing blackface to sing Bruno Mars - let's look back at the highs and the lows as the outspoken quartet celebrate their 6th anniversary as a band I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). i love exo. Goodnight. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! Joined: May 2022. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. pg.acq.push(function() { Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? Mamamoo are good, genuine people. I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. They are also one of the very few groups to have not only have won an Immortal Songs episode, but won three separate times with Backwoods, Wonderful Confession, and The Dance In Rhythm (this is typically something only done by veteran singers, as idols competing have to win over an all-age audience). Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. It is absurd. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. i am so so tired. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? ga('ads.send', { Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. Why was that her fault? All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. 9 Months of Service. okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. The sun will always shine for us. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. Villain. 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